I don't know why everyone was so afraid of Hugo escaping...it's not like he went on a killing spree murdering hundreds of innocent people. We are forgetting that Hugo killed drug dealers..not small children or elderly people. Try and look at it from a beneficial point of view. Drug dealers harm society..he just simply helped lower the number--Now don't get me wrong, I don't agree with what he did and I believe he should have gone a different route but the man is no Charles Manson or Ted Bundy. He is a normal guy who just made some wrong decisions.

I don't know why everyone was so afraid of Hugo escaping...it's not like he went on a killing spree murdering hundreds of innocent people. We are forgetting that Hugo killed drug dealers..not small children or elderly people. Try and look at it from a beneficial point of view. Drug dealers harm society..he just simply helped lower the number--Now don't get me wrong, I don't agree with what he did and I believe he should have gone a different route but the man is no Charles Manson or Ted Bundy. He is a normal guy who just made some wrong decisions.

Hugo is not a normal guy who made wrong decisions! Let's not forget that he killed these drug dealers so that he himself could sell and use the drugs. He is a known drug dealer. He is not like Robin Hood, doing bad things for the greater good. Normal people don't go around shooting people. Unless that's your reality!

First and foremost, you must address him as an accused murderer, not a murderer. He has not been found guilty as of yet. I dont know what his intentions were for escaping, but maybe he just needed to get out. What he is accused of doing was not the right thing, but I see the point of getting dealers off of the street, however if he did do it, it wasnt the right thing. And yes, I believe in my heart that when he escaped, he wouldnt harm anyone. Everyone was very scared, but I dont think he had any intentions of hurting anyone. As far as Paul Weakley goes, if he knew of these murders, those of Tammy Fassett and Michael Kerkowski, why didnt he ever say anything before. Why did he wait for over a year before he told police anything. Why did he have to wait to be arrested for I believe gun possession before he told them about the bodies in the yard. And Patrick Russin, he never mentioned anything to the authorities until Paul Weakley led police to him as well. Hugo supposedly told Paul that he didnt trust Patrick, so that is why they transported them from the school over to his backyard. I think that Paul Weakley told the police because he didnt want to have to serve much time in prison. I think that Hugo had a difficult life thus far....of course starting out in childhood. And I understand that not all people with rough childhoods turn out to be accused murderers, but some do. So are any of you local?

Your right Michelle he is an accused murderer. He has not been found guilty. As far as Paul and Pat go, I agree that they did confess when they got in trouble for other crimes. What does that have anything to do with the fact that 5 bodies were found in his backyard? Obviously Paul and Pat are trying to get lesser sentences and had something to do with these murders but that doesn't leave out the fact that so did Hugo! I do not believe Hugo wanted to hurt anyone when he escaped! I believe he made a really stupid mistake. I don't care when Pat and Paul admitted to these crimes, the fact is he knew exactly where to find them. I don't think that was luck! Yes I am local and know Hugo had a hard childhood, but he also had alot of people who loved him and alot of help to make a better life for himself. He decided not to take it! Unfortunately, he will most likely not be able to get himself out of this one by his good looks and charming personality!

Gosh..it kills me to read all this stuff about Hugo. I am going to say one thing for starters - we are supposed to be Innocent Until PROVEN Guilty! He did have a very hard life, and with that hard life came anger and stupidity, but not a killer! He is my brother, and I can tell you this for sure: I think it takes a certain type of person to kill, and Hugo is NOT that type of a person. He always tried so hard to please everyone. He'd help anyone that needed it, even if they weren't worthy of his help. His only crime at this point was letting those wacky people hang out at his home. He had a soft side of him as well, and that is the way that I will always remember him no matter what! As for Paul, this guy is a freak, he had this dark jealous side to him. He had no family, no girlfriend, and absolutely no one to love him and no where else to go. So where did he turn, he went to Hugo, but he envied Hugo, and he wanted to take it all away from him. I don't know why, some people are just sick like that, but just wait and see when this goes to trial. Pat Russin, for all of us that went to school with him, remember him as a very bubbly guy that had a lot of screws loose. I hate to say anything bad about Pat, but what he is doing to Hugo is wrong as well. He agrees to 3rd degree murder to get himself out of the hot seat, in exchange to testify as an eye witness against Hugo. I highly doubt any of what Pat is saying is true as well, Pat is looking out for Pat and that's all there is to it. Survival of the fittest. In any event, I do not know what Hugo's part in all of this is, but I firmly believe he wouldn't have turned himself back in if he wasn't innocent. We all have problems in our family, just not everyone's problems are made public. So please do not judge him on what you are reading in the media, wait for the truth to come out - that is if it ever really does! And if it doesn't, just know that for those of us that love him, he is not this serial killing psycho the media has made him out to be.

Hi......that is why I pointed out that he is to be referred to as an accused person, not as a guilty person as people have been doing all along...here and other places. I did write to your brother on October 24, and I did tell him that I see past the media portrayal of him and I do believe in his innocence. As of yet, he hasn't responded to me, but then again I don't even know that he has received it. You never know what they do with things sent to the people there. Like the staff just throws it away or disregaurds it and it never gets to the intended individual. I did just want to reach out to him and let him know that I do believe him and I was hoping that he was safe and nothing was harming him in anyway. But that is true....why would you turn yourself in if you were guilty? If it was me personally, I would die before I went back if I was guilty because I would know that I would never get back out once I went back in. But since he is your brother, just let him know that not all people in the community is against him. I support him and do believe in him. Thank you.

Thank you for your post back. I printed out your post and am including it in my next letter to him. It's so nice to hear that you wrote to him, and he does get the mail. If it isn't returned to you, then it did reach him. It's pretty rough where he is now. He's in a little 8 x 12 room, with 24 hour guards over him, video cameras on him, no windows, and NO SHEETS! (HA!) The only time he leaves his little cell is to shower and excercise, and he is watched by guards then too. Everyone thinks he's a maniac, when indeed he's just very, very smart. He was just too smart and too agile for them to contain him! He's very athletic, he always was, and it's a shame he ended up where he is, because he could have made tons of money going pro in whatever sport he wanted because of his excellent coordination. In any event, thanks again for writing to him, he really does need support at a time like this, and we sure appreciate it. So, feel free to continue to write to him, you never know, he just may write back. By the way, does he know you? Are you an old friend, or haven't you ever met him? Just curious.

Hi. Thank you for writing and printing the paragraph out. I suppose he did receive the letter just because I havent gotten it returned. I didnt know if the prison staff would just throw it away cause I know sometimes they can probably be unfair and things. I went to school with his one sister in elementary school...and I remember his mom cause she was involved in a group that his one sister and I were in together. So I dont know if maybe I would come across him then. He is 3 years older than I am. We didnt go to high school together.....I went to Lehman.....haha sorry about that.....I know they are kinda rivals.....neither one of them is that great in my opinion, but oh well. But I will continue to write to him. I did hear about his cell size....I felt bad about that. I told him in the letter that was the only thing that I regretted about his escape just because of the conditions he would have to suffer now. I was like I'll send you a blanket if youre cold, (I would imagine it might be cold) but they probably wouldnt give it you. So thank you once again for sending it to him. If you would like you can email me at xxstarshimmerxx@yahoo.com

I truly feel for Hugo's family but I have absolutely no sympathy for him. How do you not know that there are 5 bodies buried in your yard? Why would Hugo surround himself with Pat and Paul if they were the "masterminds" behind all of this? Of course Pat and Paul are trying to get lesser sentences. Wouldn't you if you knew that you were facing the rest of your life in prison. Why should they defend Hugo when he's the one who got them into this mess in the first place. Pat was afraid for his life. He knew that Hugo would have killed him if he didn't go along with him.I also know Hugo. I have felt his wrath in the past and I know that he is capable of threatening and hurting people when they don't do what he wants. He is a master manipulator. He has the incredible ability to get people to do what he wants. He surrounded himself with weak people to get them to do what he wanted. Have you ever met his girlfriend? He turned her into a completely different person, a submissive person. Hugo may have had a hard life, but so did I. I haven't killed anyone. And yes it's true, that he hasn't been proven guilty, but by escaping, he doesn't exactly look innocent. I also know for a fact that he was heavily into drugs. I saw that firsthand. He was not a robin hood. He was greedy. He served seven years for robbing a bank and when he got out of prison, he didn't even work. He may have claimed to work for family, but he was lying about that. How was he able to pay for all of his toys? Trust me, he had quads, new cars, boat, house. Did Tina pay for all of that? Maybe. But what does that say about the loser she was living with? I wish that I could be on the jury. He would never see the light of day again. The world will be a much better, safer place with Hugo no longer in it.

HA! You sound like a fool that fell for him yourself!! You are venting some jealous anger that you've had bottled up. You go girl! On another note, yes, unfortunately Tina did pay for all of the "toys", and she has the debt to prove it. So stop judging until you know the whole story. Do you think Tina was involved in any of this? How can she live there and have it all happen right under her nose and not know anything? The same way Hugo possibly had no idea it was going on right there under his very own nose. As for the drugs...that valley is infested in drugs, and all types of people are on them, so don't keep dwelling on the fact that he was a drug user because if you knew about the drugs, than you probably did them too! Or how about the latest - this just in.......

Robbery charges dropped against Selenski
Citizens' Voice 11/08/2003
Attorney Demetrius Fannick's defense of Hugo Marcus Selenski got a little easier on Friday when the Luzerne County district attorney's office withdrew the initial set of charges that held the 30-year-old in jail for five months.

"This solidifies my position from day one that he was innocent of those charges," Fannick said. "He would have been successful in defending those charges at trial.
"I'm not angry that those charges were withdrawn; it's one less trial," Fannick said. "But I'm angry that I had to go through all of this; ALL these charges were bogus."

Now please tell me why they would drop these charges if he had indeed did this? It's because he didn't do it, and they knew they had no proof of it. The same way they have no proof of him killing anyone! And the saga continues........

Did you ever hear of Charles Manson and his followers? All of you sound like Hugo's followers. I never dated Hugo, never wanted him & never did drugs with him. Jealous of what? The great life he lived, the lives he ruined? What? Hugo is a loser, he has always been a loser. It's not a matter of opinion, it's a fact. Again, where did Hugo work? How did he contribute to society?The reason the charges were brought against him in the first place was to be able to hold him until the investigation was over. They have their evidence for the murder trial and they don't need to go through the process of prosecuting him for a robbery when the guy is facing 5 murder trials. I understand if your part of his family and want to defend him, but if your not family, your just pathetic. How do we know that Tina doesn't know anything? Because she says she doesn't? Yeah, I believe her. Just like I believe poor, innocent Hugo. Why did he escape from prison? Because he's innocent? Because he just needed to get out? Everything will come out during the trial and when it is all said and done, he will be gone and maybe the valley can try to get back to what it was pre-Hugo, a safe place to live.

Please think of the things that you say before you write them. At least one of his family members are on this forum...there may be even more who read them. That breaks my heart and it makes me sad that you would say the world would be a better place without him. Everyone has purpose in the world. Whether youre the President of the United States or a person who lives on the streets, everyone has a role in the world. You're here for a reason. The purpose of living is to perfect your soul and you do that through negativity. His family still loves him, just as I am sure if you were in a situation like theirs you would love your family member. You should feel safe though considering where he is right now. And just to clear matters up, I am not a follower of anyone. I just try to be open minded and give people the benefit of the doubt. I am not God, I cannot judge someone.

You sound like a very nice, sincere person. I understand that he may have family who reads this, but this is an open forum and quite honestly, I feel I have a right to respond to the propaganda that concerns Hugo Selenski. My opinions may vary from the previous ones, but that's because I know of what I speak. Everyone is brought into this world for a reason, but I can't honestly think of one redeaming quality in this person. What was Ted Bundy's reason for living? How about Jeffrey Dahmer? While it is true that Hugo may not have killed as many people, he still stands accused of killing at least five people, one of which was not even a drug dealer. There is also the matter of Cindy Song, an innocent college student who disappeared on Halloween of last year. Please enlighten me. There is also this little thing called free speech, and just as you are entitled to naively defend someone you don't know, I am entitled to defend my belief that he is guilty. I actually wish I could have your attitude. Unfortunately, I do not see life through rose colored glasses. I knew Hugo Selenski well and I know what he is capable of. Can you say the same?

Hi. I understand your freedom of speech and I know this is an open forum, but I was just thinking of people's feelings. As far as Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer's roles in life were they were sons, brothers, and obviously murderers. I think Ted Bundy was a lawyer or some kind of public defender.....but thats besides the point. I just mean that everyone has a role in life, (fill in the blank with what you want). Im not going to get all spiritual and religious on you or anything. And about Cindy Song, I feel for her family and friends. I have never had to deal with a person who just seemed to have vanished. I dont know what happened to her. According to Paul Weakley, Hugo and Michael Kerkowski kidnapped her and Michael Kerkowski raped her and kept her in a safe until she died. I wasnt there, I cannot say what had happened, but there really is no evidence to support his accusation. That's like him saying that the sky is green...are you going to believe him just because he says it? I wouldnt until I have seen it for myself. According to police he had stuff on his hard drive about her. I guess he was researching her disappearance. According to one site, there was a sighting of her in Philadelphia and I guess she was with someone, against will obviously, and she was screaming. But if it did indeed happen the way he(Paul Weakley) says it did, do you have anything to say about Michael Kerkowski? I do feel bad about Michael Kerkowski and his girlfriend, Tammy Fassett, and my heart goes out to their families. Michael's brother, Scott, is a chemistry teacher at Lehman High School and he is really a nice person. I think that Michael used to be a pharmacist at the CVS in Dallas. I dont remember him, but people I know said that he was a really nice guy. Apparently Michael trusted Hugo enough and he was introduced to Michael's father as his best friend. I dont know what went on between them. As far as my attitude goes, I just try to see the good in people and try to look at things from their views sometimes.

Paul Weakly is the person who led investigators to the bodies found. Hugo's supporters can say whatever they want about Paul. I was around both Paul and Hugo numerous times and I also saw first hand how controlling Hugo was over Paul. Paul did whatever Hugo asked him to do. Maybe Paul was jealous of him, but he was also afraid of him.
He was just researching Cindy Song's disappearance for the hell of it?? Do you honestly believe that? Look, you and I can go back and forth over evidence, but I truly believe that you are just a hanger-on who wants somehow to be involved in all of this. The more responses you make, the more you portray yourself as someone who wants to be a part of Selenski's life or his family's life. The only information you have about this case is from what you read in the paper. You want to make Hugo a blanket?? Make sure it's one that lasts a lifetime!

Where was it that I said that I wanted to make him a blanket? Maybe you should learn to read things or maybe reread things before you jump on top of me. And I dont need or want to be a part of his or his family's life. I am just saying that I think people are innocent until they are found guilty. I mean if you were at these murders and you saw with your own eyes how they happened, then hey by all means, you should believe he is guilty, but as far as I go, I am following the free will that I have and the judicial systems code of innocent until proven guilty. And you were telling me that this is an open forum, but look who attacked my opinion....go look in the mirror and you will have your answer.

Can you give some reasons why you think he had nothing to do with the crimes he is being accused of? Because right now it seems to me like you feel you need to defend him. If you feel like you have to write someone. Why don't you right to the victims family and tell them how sorry you are for their loss and explain how you think Hugo is innocent! I'm sure they will understand your opinion!

How do you know that I havent written to the families of the victims expressing my sorrow for their losses? Assuming arent we?

If you did write the families, which I doubt, then I am assuming you did not tell them how you feel Hugo is innocent? You cannot feel so determined to defend him and then write the families and not tell them your position. It's a little hypocritical. Don't you think?

First off, lets clear up something, this is NOT an open forum..this is my website. I own it, maintain it and pay for it. I think you guys are some how just getting here linking to this post. The site actually is http://www.alteredperception.net.

Talk away, but please keep it respectful.

Thanks.

Sorry Dawn, I do realize now that it is your website and I thank you for allowing people to come to it discuss topics and to speak their opinions.

The last comments that I wrote were regarding the girl making Hugo a blanket. Let's save it for the courtroom, shall we? Say a prayer for the lives that were lost in Hugo's back yard and thank God everyday that it wasn't your brother, sister, mother, etc. who died an unspeakable death. Feel blessed that your not Cindy Song. If you didn't know Hugo, you should also say a prayer, your lucky.

The last comments that I wrote were regarding the girl making Hugo a blanket. Let's save it for the courtroom, shall we? Say a prayer for the lives that were lost in Hugo's back yard and thank God everyday that it wasn't your brother, sister, mother, etc. who died an unspeakable death. Feel blessed that your not Cindy Song. If you didn't know Hugo, you should also say a prayer, your lucky.

Back to the Innocence

No words, No thoughts, No reactions
No life, No joy, No satisfaction
Who stole the magic from your eyes?
Who was that thief?
Who filled your head with all those lies
And took away your innocence?

CHORUS

Never Let'em push us down
Never Let'em kick us around
Never Let'em take our pride
Or take away our innocence

VERSE 2

So cold, So numb, Such distractions
So filled With empty words And actions
Who stole the magic from your smile?
Who was that thief?
Who made you feel so unworthwhile
And took away your innocence?

VERSE 3

Now who's the one, that told you,
you're the only one sufferin'
All around the world, Everybody feeling it
Feeling high, Feeling low
Not every but knows just where to go
And who's the one that told you
that one life can't make a difference
Higher people know
One life can move a mon-a-tain
Look without, Look within
When the student's heart is open
then the teacher will begin

BRIDGE

Don't play it safe standing for nothing
Better to die fighting for something

CHANT

Where's your heart at?
Where's your mind at?
Where's your soul at?
Come on, come on

You people should be ashamed of yourselves. That poor family! Can you even begin to imagine what they are going through? God put us on this earth for many reasons, and judgement was NOT one of them...that's HIS part! I know we have freedom of speech, and we all have opinions, but remember what your parents taught you: If you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all!

THANK YOU SOOO MUCH DISBELIEF! Everyone is here for a reason and no one should judge....like I said in an earlier post.....I cannot judge someone, I am not God. And that everyone has a role and a purpose in the world....whatever it may be. Thank you for having compassion in your heart for the accused's family. I have compassion for both the accused, the accused's family, and for all of the victims in this case.

I can only imagine what the families of the victims are going through. Who speaks for them? If your child or a member of your family was found dead and burned in someone's back yard, would you feel the same way? Would you tell yourself, "Just because this guy has 5 bodies in his backyard, that doesn't mean that he did anything wrong."
I am not going to apologize for believing in Hugo's guilt. If he was so concerned about being judged, he should have thought of that before climbing down bed sheets and escaping from prison. I am also very sorry if any one in his family is offended. That is not my intention. I can understand why they defend Hugo, but I am not his family. If his family wants to defend Hugo in public, the people who believe in his guilt also have a right view their opinions. Hugo is alive. There are 5 people dead. They can't defend themselves, so maybe the public should. Everyone is concerned about Hugo's family reading this, what about Tammy Fassett's family reading this? What would they think? She had 2 children that are now motherless. If they spoke out against Hugo, would they be being judgemental? My only hope is that the victims of these heinous crimes receive the justice they deserve.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/11/11/fugitive.heir.ap/index.html

WOW!! See - ultimately our fate is all in the jury's hands!

Exactly. It also helps if your a billionaire. Durst is probably Hugo's hero. Time will tell. I'm looking forward to this trial.

Subject: Article from the Phila Inquirer

John Grogan | Prison break has sitcom potential
By John Grogan
Inquirer Columnist

Murder suspect Hugo Selenski is safely back behind bars today after
his excellent three-day adventure on the lam, and for that we can all
be
grateful.

Selenski, prosecutors say, is a very, very dangerous man. He was
arrested in June when police began digging up bodies in his yard near
Wilkes-Barre.

Five corpses later, investigators believe Selenski, 30, robbed and
killed drug dealers, then burned the bodies in plain sight before
burying them around his property. Not exactly the kind of guy you want
dropping by to say, "Howdy, neighbor!"

So you would have thought the warden and guards at the Luzerne County
Correctional Facility, a fortress-like jail about 100 miles northwest
of Philadelphia, would have figured out he was worth keeping an eye on.
Assuming, of course, they were awake.

Pennsylvanians have a right to be appalled at the comedy of errors
that allowed Selenski to bust out of the Big House six days ago. Once
suspected bad guys are plucked off the street, they should be allowed
back out only through due process, not an open jail window. This one
will go down in the annals of the Keystone Kops State.

Where to begin?

The accused murderer was allowed to wander around the cellblock as
part of an open-cell social hour (two hours, actually) for
maximum-security inmates. Excuse me, but social hours for prisoners?
It's supposed to be jail, not Carnival Cruise Lines.

While out and about socializing, he was free to slip, apparently
unnoticed, into an empty cell with a faulty window. He was allowed to
get hold of a broomstick, which he used to pop open the window pane,
which had been improperly replaced after an earlier escape attempt.

He was allowed to have a second mattress - a comfy night's sleep
after social hour is not too much to ask, is it? - which Selenski used
to cover the razor wire topping the perimeter fence as he scrambled
over.
He was allowed to wear gym clothes instead of a prison jumpsuit,
allowing him to blend in once outside.

Most incredibly, he and an accomplice managed to squirrel away a
dozen bedsheets under the noses of jailers. What did guards think the
prisoners were planning to do with all those extra linens - hold a
white
sale?

But my favorite part of the whole caper was what Selenski did after
he was on the outside. Did he head for Mexico? Canada? No, he went home
- to the scene of the crime. They'll never look for me there!

This breakout, and the potential danger to the community it posed, is
serious business. But I can't help thinking it has all the makings of a
new hit television comedy. Based in a prison in a sleepy northern
Pennsylvania town, the zany plot line would revolve around a dangerous
yet
lovable murder suspect determined to break out beneath the noses of his
befuddled yet equally lovable captors.

Mayberry, the sequel

You've probably already guessed the show's name: Wilkes-Barre RFD.

Up in the guard tower, Aunt Bee would be knitting away, oblivious to
the mattress-toting inmates clamoring over the high fence nearby. Out
on the perimeter, Barney Fife would be hopping around, trying to get
his
gun out of its holster. Gomer the guard would gaze up at the sheets
hanging out the seventh-floor window and marvel at the new
laundry-drying system the inmates had devised. Shazamm!

Andy the warden would be gone fishin', and his assistant Goober would
issue a memo scolding the prison staff for leaving that darn window
open again: "People, how many times must I say it? We're not paying to
heat the outdoors around here."

And no prison comedy would be complete without that teddy bear of a
buffoon, Sgt. Schultz, just transferred in from Stalag 13 to look the
other way every time another bedsheet disappears. I see nothhhing!

Oh, what delirious madcap comedy it would be. At the end of each
episode, the escape-bent inmate would improbably be captured just in
time for social hour back at the cell block - where he'd hatch plans
for
the next great escape.

As they say in Hollywood, "We couldn't make this stuff up."

Hugo's one ex-girlfriend was arrested today...I think her name was Christie or Christine....something like that. She was involved with Patrick Russin in robbery or something to that effect.

So think about this....if Hugo was not afraid to kill people, why would he leave behind witnesses? If I did what he is accused of doing, I dont think I would leave behind 2 witnesses....just something to think about.

I believe that is why the 2 witnesses came forward. I do know that Pat Russin was very afraid of Hugo. It may just have been a matter of time before one or both of them disappeared. There is also a rumor floating around that Mr. Selenski had Ms. Strom take out a life insurance policy on herself, but I don't know what the validity of that is. This is a guy who beat animals. Who knows what he's capable of.

Are you one of the Banks girls writing all this crap on Hugo? You better watch yourself, and stop writing stuff you know nothing about!!

The Ex girlfriend that just plead guilty to robbery is Carey, his current girlfriend and owner of the home where the bodies were found is Christina. Just wanted to clear that one up!

Carey Bartoo, an associate of confessed murder accomplice Patrick Russin and former girlfriend of accused killer Hugo Selenski, pleaded guilty Thursday to conspiring with Russin to steal thousands of dollars worth of firearms from a Back Mountain home.

First of all, I don't know who your talking about. Second, are you making a threat? You may want to check yourself.

You don't know as much about Hugo as you think you do, that's all I am saying! And NO I am not making a threat. I could care less about this whole thing, but you don't know what type of people are involved in this, so you should be careful. I was helping you, not threatening you!

I don't even know why I am reading this stuff, following this stuff, and posting stuff myself! It's really unending, and we all aren't going to convince each other. It did make me realize I am glad I was never on a debate team in high school or college, because it is way too stressful trying to debate everyone's opinions. We aren't getting anywhere defending Hugo or bashing Hugo, we are simply stating each of our altered perceptions on him. So lets please keep to the topic at large, and not start beating on each other. Thank you.

WOW - some crazy comments here and let me just say this, I am trying to stay neutral, but it's still been painfull reading some of this stuff. I've kept quiet reading all the posts on Hugo, and watching everything sway from side to side on Hugo. But again, he's my brother - so if anyone has any questions or comments about Hugo they'd like answered by his family, then you can email me at Hugoselenski@Hotmail.com and I can try to clear things up before they start to get too ugly here. I am not sure who is here chatting in the forum, but there are obviously some people that think they know Hugo, and I am curious who they are. So if you would please email me and tell me why you are so bitter against Hugo, I'd love to hear it. I have always been the neutral family member, so NO hate mail please!

I will agree that I may not know all of the players involved and it may be unfair of me to state some things that may be considered rumors or innuedo. Thank you for your concern and for trying to "help me". However, I am not afraid to state my beliefs. I agree with the previous posting that no one can convince one another of Hugo's guilt or innocence. I am, as the writer stated above, stating my "altered peceptions." You don't have to agree with them. I expect and welcome debate.

do the Banks hate the Selenski's or vice versa?

Who are the Banks?

Everyone that is close to Hugo knows that the Banks girls are very bitter against Hugo. So I would not say the Banks hate the Selenski's because they always were and still are friends with Hugo's sisters. I am just a close friend of Hugo's trying to figure out who is here in the forum. I guess I was wrong, but judging how harsh some of the statements are - it is definitely someone that was hurt by Hugo (most likely one of the many girls)! I think I know what family member is here so I emailed them to find out, but curiousity is getting the best of me for everyone else here that "say" they know him! Care to tell us who you are? If you say you aren't scared to voice your opinion, then unveil yourself.

Again, what is it that make's you think Hugo is innocent? No one on this site has made a valid point that he has done nothing wrong accept that they are friends with him? Everyone knows he had many girlfriends, so what? Make your point!

This is getting boring. I hope Hugo's defense is better than this. You people don't even know how to debate. How did it go from defending Hugo to lashing out at others? I am one of the "Banks girls" and I am not afraid to say that I hope that Hugo rots in prison for the rest of his life! Why? Where do I begin? He has been a thorn in my side for years. You think that I'm bitter? Maybe. Or maybe I'm just intelligent enough to know Hugo for what he is. A sociopath. Did you know that he actually admitted to me once that he was diagnosed as a sociopath? I wish he never got out of prison the first time. He has ruined relationships and has physically threatened me. You can all say how sweet he can be. Whatever. I've seen him in action. I do know Hugo and I absolutely know what he is capable of. I don't care who believes him and who stands by him. Have a blast. I have absolutely nothing against any of the Selenski's. I've always known the kids to be nothing but sweethearts. I am very sorry for all of you. There are some people I can't bring myself to feel sorry for, but that's another story. Whoever asked that I reveal myself, why don't you grow some balls and do the same?? I am so done with this forum or whatever it is. This will go to trial and I will watch with interest, but I am not wasting anymore of my precious life talking about Hugo.

I am very sorry for your pain, but we are all suffering. No matter who you support, or which side you are on - everyone is suffering in some way. We all have problems in our families, some obviously worse than others, but you definitely had your share of drugs and problems in your family. Don't take me wrong, I gave my family our share of problems too, but at least I can admitt that. I know you were hurt by Hugo, unfortunately alot of people were, but there were times when you liked him and were friends with him. I was at his house the day they came and arrested him, and I am telling you, he had no clue what was going on. Maybe it is wishful thinking, but I have faith in Hugo's innocence. I don't think you really believe Hugo did all this stuff, I think you are just very angry at Hugo.

I am not in pain and I am not suffering. Let's get that straight. I haven't liked Hugo since high school. That was over 10 years ago. I truly believe that Hugo did all of these things. I'm not even angry at Hugo anymore. Angry about what? That he ruined a friendship? That wasn't even a true friendship. If it was, we would still be friends. Let's just get this straight. The only thing I ever was, was afraid of Hugo. I'm glad he's behind bars and I hope that's where he stays. I wish he never got out in the first place. Does anyone remember what life was like when Hugo was in jail for the bank robbery? I do. Peaceful. That's what I want. Do you know that the state police showed up at my work?? I don't want anything to do with this. I don't want to be associated with him whatsoever. As I said before, defend him. It's your right. Someone posted earlier that Hugo was too smart to do this. I don't know about that, but I do know that he was too smart to not know what was going on in his own backyard. If you feel the need to drag my family's history into this, feel free, but maybe you should let me know who you are before dragging other people's families through the mud. Say what you want about my family. No one is in prison for murder. There are many, many stories that can be said about the Selenski family, but I would never do that because this is about Hugo, not his family and I would never want to intentionally hurt any of them.

Stranger than your sympathy
And this is my apology
I killed myself from the inside out
And all my fears have pushed you out

And I wished for things that I don't need
(All I wanted)
And what I chased won't set me free
(All I wanted)
And I get scared but I'm not crawlin' on my knees

Oh, yeah
Everything's all wrong, yeah
Everything's all wrong, yeah
Where the hell did I think I was?

And stranger than your sympathy
Take these things, so I don't feel
I'm killing myself from the inside out
And now my head's been filled with doubt

We're taught to lead the life you choose
(All I wanted)
You know your love's run out on you
(All I wanted)
And you can't see when all your dreams aren't coming true

Oh, yeah
It's easy to forget, yeah
When you choke on the regrets, yeah
Who the hell did I think I was?

And stranger than your sympathy
And all these thoughts you stole from me
And I'm not sure where I belong
And no where's home and no more wrong

And I was in love with things I tried to make you believe I was
And I wouldn't be the one to kneel before the dreams I wanted
And all the dark and all the lies were all the empty things disguised as me

Mmm, yeah
Stranger than your sympathy
Stranger than your sympathy
Mmm hmmm mmm

Hi everyone! I see the one post that said youre getting bored now by this. Haha well at least you werent bored when we were debating back and forth. I dont know if it was so much as debating as just stating our thoughts on the subject, but maybe it is....I don't know. Anyway, I am sorry if you found me to be too defending or whatever, I was just stating what I felt and I wasn't attacking you personally. I haven't posted in awhile, but I have been reading all the messages. The person who was at Hugo's house at the time he was arrested and the person who has been talking to you on the board I am guessing is maybe a family member? I say this just because you guys seem to know each other and because wasnt the day he was arrested he was getting his yard and house ready for a party for one of his sisters? And you say that you are a Banks girl.....are you related to the Banks that own American Asphalt? Well I guess thats all I have to say right now......Im sorry if you wanted to go and forth today, but maybe later...;)

Oh yes, by the way, I wanted to say that I am sorry that you were threatened.....no one should be made to feel scared....its an awful feeling to be scared.

I just came across this site.....I'm happy to see that there are others that feel the way i do about Hugo. I have been following these cases ever since they started, as far back as when Kerkowski was arrested. I am an advit "paper reader" i guess. What i gather from the whole thing is that he was framed.....what about Kerkowski's father, did he really steal the money?...what about mr. weakly, how did he know where everything was? why would he only bury the bodies 3 feet deep in his own yard...what if he was gone away on a trip and he let people over at his place? What if people's names were replaced w/ his?
It just seems after he got arrested for beating up & robbing the Kerkowski father, that's when the newsbreaking story about the bodies come about. what about the girl missing from state college??? I highly doubt he would have remotely have something to do w/ that. Why would he...it would only appear he went after "drug dealers" like kerkowski, that's even if that was even Hugo who did these crimes. He is not a "serial killer" and in my opinion any body who is human & of mankind is capable of committing such a crime.
It is very tragic about the loss to the victim's families. However, if your a drug dealer from the bronx I'm sure you would be aware of the dangers that are involved in that particular "job". So they kind of put themselves at risk.
I really do think the jury should pay very close attention to this case. They might just be putting an innocent man behind bars once again for murder.
After saving all of these different area papers & observing this case he really doesn't seem guilty of murder to me, maybe a drug addict and a thief, but not a murderer.
It does however seem a little fishy smelling and set up somehow to frame him, at least for the actual murders.....

There are several questions that should be asked, I would only hope & assume they would do this in court.

----oh yeah about the escape- maybe he just simply wanted to see what was going on in privacy w/ family members, check & see what happened at his home & get out for a bit. Would'nt You if you were not a danger to society??????

This is my free speech as an onlooker, i do not wish to offend.

If he was responsible in any way for the death or disappearance of Cindy Song, he will never be safe outside of prison.

He escaped to see what was going on with family members?? Get out for a bit? He wasn't vacationing in the Pocono's! That's not offensive, that's funny. You can look at it from another way also, maybe he escaped because he knew he was guilty, and the opportunity presented itself. Either way, by escaping, it does not make him look innocent.

Anabanna, I loved your post and it made so much sense! If you are the Anna I am thinking you are, thank you...it means so much to hear you defend him! If people would read what you wrote very carefully, it really makes absolutely NO sense that Hugo would have made all those mistakes. The D.A. went to Kerkowski's father and set the whole robbery thing up in order to buy them time to pin the murders on him. Of course Kerkowski agreed to do it, his son was dead and he wanted to know why. Why do you think those charges were eventually dropped against him...because they were BOGUS! And as for the murders, it's all just a little too obvious that he did NOT do it. That's just it, Paul and Pat knew it all because they did it. Hugo would not have been stupid enough to move the bodies once they were burried, and then only bury them in such a shallow grave in his very own yard. We have to give him more credit than that, he would have done something much more creative! And PEOPLE...let NOT drag peoples families into this, this is about Hugo - not the families. If someone wanted you to know who they were than they would post it in the name line, if they don't then lets respect their privacy.

I have to admitt that when I heard Hugo escaped I was like..Oh my god, he did it! I was so freaked out thinking, wow..he's really capable of doing this stuff. It totally blew my mind. But lets remember that they could not catch him - he ended up turning himself back in, he probably could have kept on running forever. But when he turned himself back in, I did a 360, and was thinking...woah, wait a minute..he DIDN'T do it. I thought why the hell would he turn himself back in if he was guilty. I figured he absolutely HAD to be innocent to turn himself back in. In any event, that's just how I look at the whole escape thing. Maybe it wasn't the smartest thing for him to do, but he obviously had something to do or someone to find to prove his innocence.

If escaping did not make Hugo look innocent, then how do you think turning himself back in made him look?

Maybe it's possible that he escaped because he had unfinished business. Or maybe when he decided to escape he didn't really have a plan. Maybe it was done on the spur of the moment and once he escaped, he didn't know what the hell he was going to do. Maybe he felt like he didn't have a choice but to turn himself in because he didn't have anyplace else to hide? Maybe he escaped because he had something more to hide?
Anything is possible. It seems a little strange that Hugo spent large amounts of his time with Pat and Paul and that he had no idea what they were up to? It doesn't make sense. The day he was arrested the paper said that he & Pat were in the yard getting ready for a party. Hugo lived there. He had no idea what was going on in his own back yard? Let's not forget that he may have been killing drug dealers, but it appears as if he too, was also a drug dealer. The bodies were originally located behind the high school, not far from where Hugo grew up. I don't think we're dealing with criminal geniuses when it comes to Paul Weakly and Pat Russin. In my opinion, they don't appear to be capable of an elaborate set up. Let's also not forget that they were all doing drugs. For them to set this whole thing up, I would think they would have to be pretty clear minded.

Exactly - I agree without a doubt, that made him look INNOCENT!!

There is a HUGE difference between "knowing" what was going on and actually "doing" it yourself!

I don't think tieing 12 bedsheets together on top of everything else he had to do to escape was a "spur of the moment" type thing!

Hugo had plenty of places to go or "hide". He still had plenty of people willing to help him.

Okay, I'll just play devil's advocate here. Escaping from prison makes you look innocent? Turning yourself back in proves your innocent? Maybe I'm just not getting it, but that makes absolutely no sense to me.So maybe he knew what was going on and didn't do anything about it? Go ahead, kill and bury FIVE bodies in the backyard, but don't let me know what's going on. I can almost understand if it was one, but 5? Michael Kerkowski was good friends with Hugo. Did Pat or Paul even know him? My question is - Why would Pat or Paul kill Michael Kerkowski? What was there motive? I don't know about Paul Weakly, but Pat Russin is not a natural born killer. He's been doing drugs for a long time and never killed anyone until he started hanging out with Hugo. Why would they kill them and burn/bury them only at the Mt. Olivet property? Is it possible that Hugo was away everytime someone was killed? What about the burning? He never saw or smelled or noticed human remains in his back yard burning?? Yes, there is a difference between knowing and actually doing it, but again, anyone who knows Hugo, knows that he is not a follower. Paul and Pat were followers. Hugo can be an intimidating guy. He is also a good manipulator. If your keeping an open mind, it is very possible, that Hugo is very much involved in all of these murders. I believe that the DA waiting to press charges against him because there is so much evidence that they wanted to make sure they have a very strong case against him. I will admit that Pat may not be the best star witness, but when you look at Pat's life and Hugo's, I think the jury is going to believe Pat Russin.

Why is the DA only after Hugo? I believe its because he's the most guilty. If they truly believed that Pat and Paul were just as involved as Hugo, why aren't all of them being charged with 1st degree murder? It makes sense that they have more evidence against Hugo.

I'm probably most def NOT the same Ana to the unknown above, hehe......but thank you for liking what i wrote, it makes sense if you pay attention closely to the whole story.....He may have been involved as far as drug dealing goes.....but really i don't feel he was involved in the actual committing of the murders. Even if you are strung out on whatever...the next day when u wake up and come down from what u are on....I'm sure you would think "hey, I should have buried those bodies a little deeper" right? That would only be the "logical" thing to do & make sense. I think Hugo is very intelligent that he would have done so. It really does seem set up & fishy, I'm not saying he's totally innocent & has done no wrong.
But, what WAS done & because bodies were found on his property of course the finger is going to point to him, whether he did it or not & someone has to get charged whether they are innocent of the crime or not. Kinda like the dog mauling in CA a few years back.....the dogs killed a woman, owner must pay....even though they had no control over the situation.
As far as vactioning in the pocconos....haha....
Of course it does make him look bad. But seriously, when your just hauled right off & don't know what all has gone down at your home, why wouldn't you want to see what occured after the fact & talk privately to some family members where it is not plugged for listening pleasure. Cover something up? I'm sure he would have went right home first......sometimes people need their space, that is just reality. What everyone is so upset about is that it makes the luzerne county prison look like a joke. I think that it is funny actually , perhaps it wasn't even "HIS" as in HUgo's idea......perhaps he just followed & had a plan....a def plan because it worked....He is a very creative individual.

hugo's addy ? I would like to send him a letter.....does anyone have his address......? If yes.....i will post an e-mail addy for u to send it to. Thanks.....AnA

Email Hugoselenski@Hotmail.com with your email address and I will give you Hugo's address.

No - on the contrary - the only reason the DA is after Hugo is because they have these 5 dead bodies and no idea who did it. So of course they pick the easiest target to pin the murders on. I wondered myself why they weren't going after Pat and Paul as much as they are after Hugo. It's because they have NO evidence, motive, nothing, so they are desperate enough to use Pat and Paul to pin the murders on Hugo "their easiest target"!!

The evidence and motive will be brought in trial! I look forward to what all of you will say. There are forensic scientists and some very intelligent people on this case. They are not prosecuting Hugo on a whim. None of us have any clue as to how much evidence they have on him. This is not a conspiracy against Hugo, when the facts come forth you will realize that Hugo is not some normal, intelligent guy that you would want as your next door neighbor. For the people that know him and support him I am positive they will find out things about him they had no idea about. He led a double life. He was a charming, sweet person to some, and a very dangerous guy to others. Obviously, he showed different things to different people. He in fact did threaten alot of people. Fortunately he did not follow through. He admitted doing it. I guess all I'm saying is don't get your hopes up that he is going to be shown as a victim in all of this. Most people know who the real victims are!

I like the way Dawn calls all of his supporters "Hugoists". The writer above talks about being "logical". Sure, he was a drug dealer, but he wouldn't kill anyone? What makes you so sure? Because he said he wouldn't? The only people that makes sense to are the people who are grasping at straws to believe Hugo. Everyone thinks that Hugo is so smart to do anything like this. Why does everyone think he is so smart? Let me guess??? Is it because he robbed a bank and spent 7 years in a federal penitentiary? Is it because he has 3 children by 3 different mothers? Is it because he graduated dead last in his high school graduating class? Is it because he started doing and dealing drugs almost immediately after getting out of prison? Is it because he hung around with incredible intellectuals? Is it because he is now in prison and facing life or even death for murder? Is it because he escaped from prison only to be caught? Yeah, he sounds like a regular Einstein.

Becky, give it a rest already!

Did I miss something? Where did Dawn call us Hugoists? If he wasn't so great, than why are we all so intrigued by him?

Thank you for mentioning someone's name again. Unfortunately, it wasn't Becky who wrote the last passage. I was told that if someone mentions someone's name on this, Dawn would let us know who wrote it(this is her website). Once we find out who posted Becky's name, we will post your name. Are you so weak that you can say other people's name but won't reveal who you are? If you are so supportive of Hugo, tell us who you are.Do you think that there is only one person against Hugo on this?? You are very wrong. The people who support Hugo are the minority. The only reason your mentioning someone's name on this is because you have no other response to the truth. I realize that the truth hurts but that is no reason to bring up someone's name who may not have anything to do with this. Who is so intrigued? A few girls who may be infatuated with him? What response do you have to Hugo's supposed intelligence?? There is really nothing you can say, because again - he's a jackass.

It's Brian. A close relative of Hugo's. Feel better?

The Hugoists are not the minority, he has a lot of friends and family that continue to support him, not just infatuated girls.

You assume because you are a girl that we are all girls here. Well, I proved you wrong there. It's sad to me that you allowed someone to hurt you so much that you continue to dwell on him. If you say you know Hugo so well, then you should know his mom's maiden name - therefore you know my name too! However, you are right, this is getting way off track, and I am sorry to bring names into this. Do you accept my appology Anti-Hugo one?

No, I don't feel better. You shouldn't be mentioning someone's name if your not sure who it is. Becky is not writing this (whoever she is). If you don't have an intelligent response, you should not get defensive and start throwing out people's names because you have nothing better to say. It is easy for all of you "defenders" to say whatever you want, but as soon as someone says something that's contrary to what you believe, or may have a ring of truth to it, your only response is to start blaming others or being defensive.

You let this get off track, not the people who think Hugo is guilty. Who's dwelling? I think that this is fun. I never allowed Hugo to hurt me. I'm not sure what your talking about. Also, I never assumed anything. Did I say that only girls were writing on this?

PS- HIGDEN?

Wow! I'm impressed, you spelled it wrong, but that's ok. All I know is that believe it or not, there are only a few people that dislike Hugo enough to speak out about him, and I have a pretty good idea of who those "few" people are.

You can believe whatever you want, but as the writer mentioned above, when it comes to trial, there are going to be many surprises that his supporters are going to learn about Hugo. I don't think you have a clue as to who disliked Hugo. I know many people who dislike Hugo and who believe he is guilty. Obviously, you are part of his family so why would you be surrounding yourself with people who believe in his guilt? But that's okay. All of the evidence will be brought out in the trial. Let's continue with this conversation when the trial is over. If he walks, I will apologize. But for some reason, I'm not too concerned about that happening. By the way, your a loser for bringing someone into this who has nothing to do with it. Grow up.

Haha....hilarious....Anti-Hugo one.....haha youre too funny man

Was Pat in a drug treatment facility in December 2002?

In response to the person who wrote this post:I like the way Dawn calls all of his supporters "Hugoists". The writer above talks about being "logical". (and the message continues) You do have to give him credit, although he may have graduated last or second to last in his class, he did graduate...he didnt give up or drop out. And as far as the children go, its not their fault...they didnt ask to be born.....or to be born into an unwedded union. And about him spending time in prison for bank robbery, you have to remember that he payed his debt to society for that. And also to the point that you made about him escaping only to be caught, you have to remember that he turned himself in on his own free will...he wasnt caught so to speak.

Oh and by the way, he finally wrote back to me....and personally.......dont attack me here, its my opinion.....I find him to be very upbeat and very intelligent. He writes a lot....I thought my letter was long....his was probably longer than mine was. He has really good grammar and his spelling was excellent....so despite what some people on here say, I do find him to be very intelligent. And he gave me his reason for escaping, but I wont get into that.

I think the whole thing is tragic. I know 2 out of the 3 men involed. One thing i try to keep in mind is that alot of people's live were greatly affected by this whole situation. None of them in a positive way. My suggestion is that unless you know things for a fact, dont try and pretend like you do. I lost a huge peice of my life sice this happend. This isn't a movie, or some peice of fiction. This is real. Somebody will pay for what happend. One person already has.The truth will come out in the end.

Give him credit for being a dumb ass? Do you know how hard it is to graduate last in your class? They probably let him graduate because they didn't want him to come back. On the topic of the children - where did I ever say that it was their fault? I feel horrible that these children are going to grow up with a father who will is leaving a legacy, such as Hugo's. Also, he may have paid his debt to society, but what did he do when he got out of prison. How long was it before he was back in prison. 1 year, maybe 2. About escaping, what choice did he have but to turn himself in? The police watched him entering his house hours before he turned himself in. They already knew he was there! My point was - Hugo is not smart. All of the things that he has done in the past have culminated to this point. Refresh my memory - what positive contributions has Hugo made to society besides being a menace? Seriously, please let me know about what he has done to help humanity. How has he been a positive force to society? I truly want to know. Convince us who are "anti-Hugo" that this is a person who deserves to be let out of prison. Of all of the arguments I've heard, no one has been very convincing.

There is obviously something wrong with you to be writing to an accused murderer. Your friends and family must be very proud that your new pen pal is an accused murderer. Who does things like that? Don't you think it's just a bit strange?? Have you ever written to other men in prison?

Wow you are just so cheery and positive aren't you? Wow you sure do love to fight. Man....I dont know where all of your happiness is, I mean wow try and smile. I dont think I should really post here anymore because personally when I try to be nice and caring and understanding, I am attacked. I mean really, I did apologize to you many times, and I said I felt you pain when you were threatened and when you were scared, but what does it get me......nothing at all. I mean goodness, have respect for other people. You dont really need to verbally attack me whenever I post something. Just look at positive things in life.....and your life will be happier! And dont come back at me and say that your life will be better or happier if Hugo is gone.....there is more to your life than Hugo. I mean be thankful you wake up in the morning, be thankful for your freedom, be thankful for your family, be thankful for your health, be thankful for the sun, the rain........everything you have. Dont be so angry at everything. Geez.....

Oh and about me writing to him, it was MY choice not anyone else's. I can make decisions for myself and I dont need someone to tell me if its right or wrong. I just wanted to reach out to him and let him know that there are people who support him and arent against him. I mean I am a nice person.....I dont have much hate in my heart. Sorry.

I didn't write the comment above about Michelle but just like you said about the anti-hugoist. Ha it was funny! You have to admit, you said you don't know hugo at all but you believe in his innocense. It's a little strange to write some guy you don't know who has been accused of murder! Would if he is guilty? You have no idea about anything this guy is about, but yet you defend him like he is your husband or family member. I could understand about his family but someone who has never met him stumps me! As for the person above! I think they are very clever! They are getting you all revved up aren't they over someone who you say you never met!? It seems to me and I don't know Hugo that well but that the Hugoist are in total denial. There is too much evidence that Hugo had something to do with this. I have read all the posts and people have asked all of you to give reasons why Hugo is innocent and to give one example on how he contributed to society and all anyone could say is "He's too smart" or you try to blame it on other people. Where was he? I'll bet anything nobody knows where he was when he disappeared for days. They think they know but they don't. Peoples' lives have been ruined by this tragic story but most of all the families of the victims who were murdered. So when you what to think happy thoughts remember that these families will not be so happy for a very long time if ever!

Ignorance is bliss.

There's nothing wrong with writing to Hugo. There are plenty of cases where the victims families actually embrace the killer in order to overcome their own anger and pain. So leave her alone about writing to him - it's absolutely none of anyone's concern but hers!

You can say that it's not bizarre. It is. She's not the victim's family. She's just weird.
It is her business, but it's very bizarre. How many accused murderer's have you written to?
Have I stepped into some bizarre world? This just gets stranger and stranger.

Thanks...I appreciate your comments on me.....and I also love how you are always just soooo positive about everything.

I swear everything I have said on this board, you have attacked my opinion, but then again you say that you have your own right to put up what you feel but when someone else goes against you you feel you need to attack them with your views. And you know, just because I said on here that I write to him, you know that there are other people who do it as well....not just me. There was a post from like 2 nights ago that said she wanted his address so she can write him, did you ever say anything to her? Of course not. You know......when you said that you were threatened by him, I was the ONLY person on here to be sympathetic to your hurt and pain....well at least the only one to post about it, but anyway, I really do feel bad that you were put in a position like that, I know what its like to be scared and its not a good feeling. But do you care that I was thinking about how you felt, of course not, you just continue to attack me with your words. But thats ok. Say what you want to about me.

Michele...you've got mail.

I don't know what your talking about. I am not the one who posted that I was threatened by Hugo. I just find it incredibly bizarre that ANYONE, not just you would write to someone who is in prison, accused of murder. Especially someone who doesn't know him. If you knew me, which you don't, you would find me to be a very positive person. What you consider to be negative, I consider to be rational. It is obvious from reading the majority of postings, that being rational isn't high up on people's list of priorities. Not to put you down or anything, but what is it about him that you feel this connection, this need to write? I don't believe that I'm attacking anyone. If you gathered 20 people and you said that you are writing to an accused murderer, do you think that I would be the only person to find it strange? Do what you want. I honestly don't care who you write to, but don't be upset just because other people may find it to be a little weird. There really isn't much more to say on the subject except to quote the above writer, "IGNORANCE IS BLISS!"

maybe that comment was directed at you

It wasn't!

It wouldn't surprise me if it was.

Of course it was directed towards me. Nothing else on this website makes sense, why would something like that be directed to the Hugoits?

There is only ONE person I have ever seen that can BULLSHIT the way you can, just give it up already! I know this kind of stuff is what you live for, but shouldn't you be watching your kids instead of spending the whole day on the computer?

You are so funny. You think you know who this is but you have no idea. Why do you keep responding if it bothers you so much? Why are you even reading this if it is so disturbing to you? I'm full of bullshit?? You people are probably the most twisted I have ever seen! Instead of reading all of this crap, you don't you all get together and write a letter to Hugo or something. I think he would like that. Maybe you can all knit him a blanket or something.

I've decided that I'm only going to respond to intelligent people on this website who have a clue. You can all breathe a sigh of relief - you probably won't be hearing from me anymore!

Just curious, if they put Michael Jackson in the same cell as Hugo.........Will the King of Pop be toasted or will Hugo learn to moondance?

THE FROG ROCKS!!

Hugo should be grateful that none of you "Hugoists" are a part of his defense team. All a jury would have to hear is an opening statement and he would be convicted "hands down" with the kind of reasoning that you present in this forum.

Hugo should be grateful that none of you "Hugoists" are a part of his defense team. All a jury would have to hear is an opening statement and he would be convicted "hands down" with the kind of reasoning that you present in this forum.

Thank God!! There is intelligent life out there!

I run the concession stand here and am polling my customers........1 says he escaped because the other inmates were calling him names..........2 say Hugo escaped for sex .........and I figure the sex is why he turned himself in again.

That is funny!

I just got in a heated argument with Stash and Frank.....I say your reference to "Hugoists" is accurate........Stash says it should be "Hugonauts" like the persecuted French.......Frank says it can't be Hugonauts cause NASA won't accept anyone with a criminal record. Frank grew up in Plymouth.

Just curious, if they put Michael Jackson in the same cell as Hugo.........Will the King of Pop be toasted or will Hugo learn to moondance?

Nothing would happen because Michael Jackson likes children not adults smart one.

As far as why that person keeps responding to your posts all the time is because Hugo is their family and despite whatever your name is, they have a right to support their family member. And just because you have had bad experiences with the accused, doesnt mean everyone else did. And as far as the postings to support the negative comments on the board, I think its all coming from the same person......but then again, thats just my personal opinion.

Hugo should be grateful that none of you "Hugoists" are a part of his defense team. All a jury would have to hear is an opening statement and he would be convicted "hands down" with the kind of reasoning that you present in this forum.

First of all, I am not a lawyer and I am not sure anyone else here on this site is either. And you dont know how the jury will feel when they hear things. And you know sometimes people on a jury are open minded, unlike yourself. Thank you very much!

Michele...you've got mail.

hey thanks, I replied :)

Just wanted to let you all know that Robert Shapiro, a well known and one of the country's best attorneys, said that people need to realize that people are INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY, not GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE. He said that the United States Judicial System is highly tainted because of that.

Tell that to the families of the victims whose remains were found in a burn pit in someone's back yard. I'm sure they'll see your side of it.

its the simple fact about what he said, you are innocent UNTIL you are proven guilty, not the other way around.

Who is disputing that fact? I, for one believe that the justice system works. If you've noticed, on all of the postings, they refer to Hugo as the "accused". Sure, people believe he is guilty, just like people believe he's innocent. That's the beauty of a free society. I, personnally feel that the evidence so far is stacked against him. I would love for someone on this website to coherently point out his innocense, but so far, this has not happened. Do I feel bad that Hugo's family is going through hell? Sure. But I feel worse for the victims families. I feel worse for Tammy Fassett's children than I do for others. Fortunately, for Hugo's family, Hugo is still alive. People mention that some of these people were drug dealers which is an occupational hazard. I agree, but tell that to the families of these people who were brutally murdered. Regardless of what anyone says, you cannot escape the fact that Hugo's house was a graveyard, and in my humble opinion, he was the gravedigger. I'm not trying to make people feel bad and I apologize if I can't be "positive", but what the hell is positive about this case? Should the families try and remain "positive", even though they weren't able to give their family member a decent burial? If one of the family members of the victims were to read this website, they would be shocked and horrified at some of the statements made by people. You speak about the comments made by Robert Shapiro. I don't disagree with that but there is also another school of thought which makes the victims out to be the bad guy, and the bad guy out to be the hero. I clearly see that happening here.

The holidays are upon us and the counter boys are discussing what we could send Hugo to brighten up the season........Frank suggested a red and green stocking to hang on his cot........I thought maybe a turtle dove to awaken him gently in the morning..........Stash says a quart of K-Y would be more appreciated, cause soon ol' Hugo's going to be introduced to the general prison population.

I agree, it is the same person writing all the negative stuff. They actually got so bored that we stopped responding and debating them that they created another personality to debate against themselves! How very sad and pathetic THIS persons life must be. That's it, that's why you say you know so much about Hugo, you are just like him so you know the in's and out's of sociopaths -- FREAK!

haha....did you get that from my email....or am I talking to the wrong person here?

I would just like to start off by saying, In no way at all am I related to or friends with any member of the Selenski family. I believe that everyone is innocent until proven guilty and the same goes for Hugo. Although majority of the evidence is not in his favor. I do not have an opinion on guilt or innocence. I found it very amusing to read what all of NEPA has to say. Sounds like there are some people out there that are very upset with Hugo or really have nothing better to do but say harsh things about a man because they know family members are reading. It is disguisting that someone would type things about hugo being a sociopath, I think they should leave it to the newspaper reporters to write that stuff. Also, to say that he graduated last in his class, well at least he graduated, its more than most of NEPA! Who really cares that he has 3 kids by 3 different women, god put us here to reproduce didn't he, atleast they wern't aborted! So the guy made mistakes. Everyone does. There is a reason why there is a judge and jury. Leave it up tp them. And sorry Michele, unless your a close family friend, ex gf or family member, it is kinda weird that your writing him letters. May god be with the Selenski family during this whole ordeal and Bless all the victims family members. One more thing before I go, Does anyone know how in the world Christina Strom could afford such a nice home on an insurance appraiser's salary?

You'd be surprised by how much she makes as an insurance appraiser! As long as you have the money to put down on the house and the income to debt ratio to back it up, it's easy to get a mortgage. Lets just say she makes a really good living as an insurance appraiser, but she's also been saving for quite a while for a house, and she was finally ready to buy. She also bought the house from a guy named Steiner that had lived there for a long time and had a lot of the house paid off, so he wasn't looking for an exhuberant amount of money, he just wanted to sell the house and move to Florida. All things are possible - everyone always assumes the worst when they see things they don't understand, but it wasn't drug money or anything like that....it was all good and legal.

Kelly,

I had reasons for writing him. I had questions to ask, I wasnt writing to him as a friend or on a friendship level. And like I said, Im not the only one.

Kelly,

Thank you also for agreeing with all the things I said....the child thing, the graduation thing, etc. See, maybe if you detached yourself from you and you put yourself in his position, he would like to get letters of positivity. I mean if I was in his position, I would like to get supportive letters from people, no matter who they were from. Like his sister said, its the only link to the outside world and if he doesnt have a problem with it or his family doesnt, I mean whats it to you? I made the mistake initially of posting that I wrote to him. If I didnt say anything, nothing would have been made of it. I mean its between him and I not him me and everyone else. If he didnt want me to write to him or if his family asked me not to, then I would absolutely respect their wishes and not. When he wrote back to me, he asked my like 3 or 4 times to write back to him and I never said oh can I write to you again. I was hopefully he would respond, but if he didnt then it wasnt a big deal. I would have just figured he didnt want to be bothered or he had other things to do. So I mean, I just should never have said anything in the first place.

GET HELP!

Wow......whats the matter?

Wow......whats the matter?

Did any of you read what Dawn wrote to the Hugoists yesterday? Go to the main page and actually read it!

I've remained relatively silent about Hugo Selenski and the ongoing comments that continue. For some family, friends and some wannabe friends the debating continues. Things became a little hostile then cooled off some. Please continue in that cooled off vein, but let's get the main rule down now: Anyone who threatens will be banned immediately. Play nice, or don't play. No running with scissors..got it?

That's what she posted. Well personally as far as I can tell, no one is threatening anyone. Maybe a little hostile and angry words, but nothing threatening. And yes, I did read what she wrote after that as well and I did leave a message in regards to her comments. But nothing is going on in here anymore....its just become old and uneventful, nothing changes....everything is the same. People saying good things, then others come back and say bad things. It's just pointless in the end. Nothing anyone says can change what one thinks. Another person can point out good or bad things, but can someone persuade someone to think a different way? Probably not. So in the end, it's just a continuing circle that goes around and around and no one gets anywhere. So with that, I am going to say goodbye and let my comments and thoughts be my own from now on. It was nice "knowing" everyone for about 2 weeks. I hope you all have a safe, healthy, and happy holiday season filled with love and that youre all blessed with good things.

The counter scuttlebutt says Barrister Fannick is representing our wayward boy in exchange for television rights..........WVIA/(PBS) is considering an upcoming "Victory Garden" episode focusing on the high organic content of Mount Olivet Road soils.

Oops...I forgot to post my name....but that was from me......:)

one last post from me......Michele......someone posted inbetween......I am not "The Frog", but for those who dont know what a barrister is, its British for lawyer.....not everyone is stupid on this site, sorry for disagreeing with a certain someone.......

Ok, 1st I would like to address Michele, I never asked why you are writing to Hugo and by all means, if it's comforting to you than go for it. I just voiced my opinion that it is weird. Ok you voiced your's so I have the right to also. And To, I am assuming Hugo's sister, I never "assumed" that the home was bought with drug money, I just simply asked how she was able to afford it. A very close friend of mine is a tax attorney and has told me that there is an audit being done to determine if the home was purchased legally. If you say it is that who I am I to doubt. You don't need to go into extravagant detail to make me believe what your saying.

I take offense to Kelly for saying that most of NEPA hasn't graduated from high school. I'm a college grad, and so are most of my friends from NEPA. What high school did you go to?
Also, the statement that "we're put on this earth to reproduce?" Are you from Noxen? Is it okay to have multiple children, and then not support them? According to you it is, as long as we're doing what God intended. I don't know. I find that comment kind of strange.

Ana, It takes 2 to tango AND to take care of the children. In this case only 1 person got stuck with the incredible task of raising the children and it sure wasn't Hugo. Happy writing!

By far would I consider myself closed minded. Just because I don't write to an accused murderer doesn't make me closed minded! I chose to spend my time more efficiently. I am a 1997 Wyoming Valley West graduate and no I am not from Noxen. That's just a judgement you would pass on someone because you don't agree with what I said. So why are you in here reading what people are writing and getting offended if your gonna stereotype people. None of my comments were to offend anyone. If you don't agree with my statement that a large majority of NEPA dropped out of school, read the papers. There have been poll's done on the subject. As for NEPA being the most buisness oriented part of PA, alot of suits , politics etc.... HELLO have you seen all of the restaurants going up near the Valley Mall or the department stores??? Wow must take einstein to work there! I never saw a cashier at BABIES R US wearing a business suit! Face it, NEPA is pretty much in povery. And note I said MUCH maybe the person who got offended doesnt fall under that catagory, but please most are living way out of their means!... POLITICS?? There has to be a reason for the politician's to open their mouths, CRIME! PRISON ESCAPES! OK sorry back to Hugo, Maybe I will write to him too, anyone have his address?

One more thing, Who are you, Do you know that Hugo didn't take care of his children before he went to jail? Who is to say that he wasn't a good father? It seems you know an aweful lot. I NEVER suggested that it's ok to make children and not take care of them but your the one assuming that Hugo wasn't providing for his children before he went to jail!

Write to him! I encourage you to! Hugo will probably write back. He has nothing else to do. Why is it that the people that don't even know the damage he has done to people are infatuated with him? Has he been a nice guy to some? Yes. Has he ruined peoples lives? Yes. Everyone watch. The preliminary hearing is coming up next month to determine if there is enough evidence. Also It's not an assuption that Hugo did not take care of his children. He was gone for 7 years by his own mistake. After he got out he still did not pay support. Read the papers! By all means, support Hugo. You have the right! But I disagree with you as far as NEPA graduates go. Show me a study that talks about people not graduating or going to college from this area. As far as my class goes 98% went to some college. And these people at these restaurants and retail stores are there because it is a respectable job. And without them you would not be able to shop at these stores. Don't put these people in a category just because they work a cash register. Some people do this just to get out of the house. Not for money! Look the fact of the matter is this started out about Hugo! There are at least 3 people on this site that doesn't even know him and want to write to him. Obsession!? Probably. But that won't help him. The facts will come out and you girls can write to him and support him, other girls did it the first time around! By the way, they were forgotten when he got out of prison. There are books and studies done about women who write to men in prison. I think one is called "desperate"!

Please show the statistics and polls that state a large majority of people from NEPA did not graduate from high school. I would be interested in reading those "polls".
You stated above"Who really cares that he has 3 kids by 3 different women, god put us here to reproduce didn't he, atleast they wern't aborted!"
Who really cares? If you know so much about polls and statistics, look up the statistics on kids who grow up to be criminals or drug addicts because the didn't have a father to support them. Or the kids who are living in poverty because they only have one parent raising them. I believe that the majority of people shouldn't be allowed to reproduce. There should be a test before procreation. Hugo probably would have flunked it and we wouldn't have to be having this conversation!

"HELLO have you seen all of the restaurants going up near the Valley Mall or the department stores??? Wow must take einstein to work there!" - Quoted by Kelly

Talk about stereotyping!

well, many people here seem to be very big on names. So, I will start off by introducing myself. My name is Bridget. No, I do not know Hugo or the Selenski family personally. I do not have a huge crush on Hugo; and yes I will be writing him. Does that mean that I am desperate? No. I am heavily involved with the love of my life. Also, I respect the fact that everyone here has an opinion, and I recognize that they are also entitled to it.
I only know what I have read in the papers and on this site. I do not know for sure if he is innocent or guilty. There is a very good chance that he may have played a part in these murders, and maybe not. However, I do not fully trust the justice system, which has been known to be very corrupt in our area. Many people have spent their lives in jail, only to be proven innocent years later. So, even if he is innocent, there is a very good chance that he will be found guilty.
There are many things to be read about him in the papers: 3 children, unstable childhood, etc. Every one is a sociopath in their own little way, ok? Take Einstein and Freud for example. The human mind is an ungodly entity that is capable of the best and the worst all at the same time. These characteristics are present in everyone.
Everyone has things in their past that they wish did not exist; i do not care who you are. Anyone can make terrible mistakes, which is the reason the justice system was put in place well before our time. And everyone is capable of the unthinkable. Punishment is crucial in correcting bad behavior. However, another crucial element in correcting behavior is to teach new behavior. Even if he is not guilty, I am sure that he has had a tough life and would benefit from learning to reshape his actions and behaviors. Unfortunately, the justice system does not always follow thru with that.
So whether you think he is guilty or not guilty, you still should not judge him. I am sure we all have a few skeletons in our closet. If you support his innocence, then let him know that. If you think he is guilty, do not pass judgement, simply realize that it is unfortunate that a mind and body would be capable to go to such extrems.
With the holidays coming up, I am sure that this will be a very tough time for Hugo and his family. There are 2 sides to every person, and I am sure that the family has had the opportunity to see a truly genuine side of him that many of us have not. I wish the family much strength to get thru this tough time, as well as thru the holidays. i wish that hugo has an opportunity to truly find who he really is inside and build upon that. If he is innocent, I wish him his freedom and a chance to discover his own inner beauty. If he is guilty, I wish for him that he is able to face that within himself and learn to change his life around. I wish his children well, for they willl suffer in the longrun from these unfortunate events, as well as the fact that he is not in their lives. And to all of you who have your freedom, I wish you a very happy holiday as well as a chance for reflection on your own lives.

I understand and respect your opinion, Bridget. I still find it very strange that you would write him, but okay, whatever. I'm just trying to understand that if your involved with the love of your life, why would you want to write Hugo Selenski? Do you write other people in prison?
I can understand why some people would not trust the judicial system, but I don't believe that is the case here. This is a guy who spent 7 years in prison. He is already a convicted felon! Hello!!! He was let out of prison less than 2 years ago and now he is back in prison because there were FIVE bodies found in his back yard!! Then, on top of everything else, he ESCAPES!!!

You also state "Every one is a sociopath in their own little way, ok? Take Einstein and Freud for example." Please inform me where you get your information. In all of the books I have read on both of these men, nowhere does it ever state that either one of them were diagnosed as being sociopath's. You are doing both Freud and Einstein a great diservice by putting them in the same category as Hugo Selenski.

You also say "The human mind is an ungodly entity that is capable of the best and the worst all at the same time. These characteristics are present in everyone." I happen to agree with this statement. But, the difference is, that most people do not choose to act on every impulse that they have. Any person is probably capable or hurting another person, but most choose not to. I happen to know the accused. I know what he is capable of. You can't really say the same.

"So whether you think he is guilty or not guilty, you still should not judge him." Only in a perfect world would this happen. Maybe it's not right to judge, but come on. If I'm judgemental because of everything I know about this person and everything that has been found out about this person, so be it. Regardless of what I think or believe, a jury is also going to judge him and I think that in the end, they will do the right thing, which in my opinion, is to convict him. If you really want to write to someone in prison, write to Patrick Russin who is also involved in all of this. He may have some interesting things to say. Or is he not cute enough?

BRIDGET...Thank you very much for your very sincere post. We sure appreciate it.

obession must be a torment....who has the right to decide who will live or die??....how can situations happen at someones home and they can be oblivious about it?? please people...can a person actually believe their own lies??? i cant answer these questions...you people seem to know it all....it is always nice to have faith....but courage and honesty are also admirable...

Ana, what is your email address? I want to talk to you.....

deep down in your heart and soul is the key to truth and whether you believe in it, it is there and it is not going to change...you try to believe someone and to give them the benefit of the doubt which is ok ...but with the circumstances and the situations with the people involved in any matter...with a child or and adult...i think anyone can figure out the truth...the truth will only set you free.. it is ok to have hope and faith in someone hoping that they are telling you the truth but that little spot deep down will tell you the answer and whether or not you want to believe it or not is up to the person and the morals and standards they were brought up with...many people in the world have had a hard life..you make the best of any situation and move on with courage, diginity and the intentions to do better...drugs, weapons, deceit, lies will not help you in any matter...i came from a hard life and i tried in most part to keep a positive attitiude and learn from my mistakes...and you know what....i do well for myself...very well in fact...work hard love one another and most part try to love yourself...no one is going to help you but you...

Writing out bad checks, kicking out police car windows, hurting people and animals, robbing as a young adult, drinking and driving, drugs. Need I go on. God bless the Selenki family, I am glad his is not my child.

I just wanted to write back to the person who responded to my post. I do not know who to address it to, because of course, no name was posted.
However, I would like to tell you that both Freud and Einstein were indeed geniouses, but very sick in their own rights. If you are unaware of this, perhaps you should study a bit more. Take for example Freud's Oedipus Conflict or Penis Envy Theories. Freud was brilliant, but had serious sexual fascinations himself that he admitted to. He even admitted that many of his theories may have been developed solely out of his own fascinations. Howver, he still felt that they held water because of the fact that he experienced them. Well, I did not experience penis envy, I don't know about you.
My point is that everyone is brilliant in their own way; and everyone is disturbed in their own way. I am no exception, and neither are you. For that matter, neither is Hugo Selenski. I am not even addressing an opinion on his guilt or innocence, because I do not know. He is the one who knows. If he is innocent, I hope to god that it is proved. If he is guilty, I hope to God he can admit that to himself and begin to restucture his life. he is very young. He has time to change who he is, and what sides of him he chooses to display.
To answer your question as to whether or not i write to other people in prison- yes I do. Why? Because I do casework for prisoners, both adult and children who are socially or emotionally disturbed. Some prisoners simply are not getting the help that is needed, which is why they are in and out of prison throughout their lives. Why do i not show an interest in writing to Patrick Russin? For a few reasons. One of them being that the rumors are that Hugo is the "mastermind" behind all of this. Another reason: because I do not have an interest in people who try to pawn their misgivings off on others. My interest is helping people to understand why they did what they did and how to correct their future actions.
I respect the fact that you are entitled to your opinion, as I am mine. However, I did not come on this post to go back and forth with people in an attempt to criticize one another's opinions. I cam on this post to enlgihten you to the fact that even if he is guilty he is still a person deep down who was probably in need of help long before these murders were even committed. Even a serial killer does not kill just for fun or lack of something better to do. They do so because they have something wrong with them and are lacking the help they truly need. Do some reseach; you will find that most of them were brilliant in their own ways. Also, you say youknow the accused and know what he is capable of. I do not know if you are the same person who keeps saying that, but I am curious to know why you never elaborate on what it is he did to you. Yet you feel free and easy to elaborate on everything else, including posts by others. If you knew him, what was it about him that made you choose to keep his company in the first place? Was it because he was such a horrible person? Or was it because you thought that maybe he was a pretty decent person?
Happy Holidays to all! Appreciate what you have, as well as the fact that you have the ability to control your own actions. Some people are not that fortunate.