Girl, you'll never be a good victim with that attitude. What's the big idea, thinking you control your destiny?

Boy when you miss a point, you really miss a point.

Women still earn about 76 cents for every dollar a man earns, and it's not just a question of salary. Women are more likely to end up in low-paying jobs because of the lack of safe and affordable child care, public transportation and other resources that force them into choices I hope you never have to face - like do I leave my kids home alone and go to work or go on welfare and listen to people complain about me being lazy and acting like a victim?

The $50 a plate goes toward finding solutions to problems like that. There's a whole other group of people working on school books.

Making a meaningful and positive contribution - what a concept.

"Women are more likely to end up in low-paying jobs because of the lack of safe and affordable child care, public transportation and other resources that force them into choices I hope you never have to face..."

So you say, but women do have the choice to obtain an education, a decent paying job, secure transportation before child rearing. I have 3 children, I've made those tough choices. I chose work to feed and clothe them rather than relying on others working to pay my way. It's all about choices...and with that attitude you are giving license to be "the victim" instead of a productive member of society. It's time some women quit coming up with excuses and end this cycle of "poor me" and take some responsibility.

Talk about missing the point, you've missed the boat.

You're so busy picking apart my argument, you're not getting my point, which is this: if you don't want to support the Women's Equality Day ideals and fund-raisers, fine. Then leave the whole thing alone, instead of making snide comments about people who are just trying to do something positive.

Here's what I really don't understand. If your life is going so well, why do you find it necessary to be so negative about feminists or poor women or women who make "bad" choices and aren't living the way you think is right? You don't have to help them, but you don't have to kick dirt on them either.

You've got a couple of amazing gifts - computer access and the right to free speech. Use them wisely.

As for doing something positive, I am, I'm paying taxes...a rather large amount if I say so myself. Don't get me wrong, I'm not kicking at the ones that are truly down for a short period of time. Yes, there are true "victims". But far too many abuse and use the system. Professional victims. The healthy ones.

No I won't support the Women's Equality Day, again, because they are perpetuating the idea of "poor me". I don't see it as something positive. But a rationalization, an excuse.

My life is going just fine but don't think it doesn't irk me to my core when I see the welfare momma's sporting gold, diamonds and expensive hairdo's. I see this every day, Monday through Friday...I know what I'm talking about. I work with women that sit in front of me wearing 1000 dollars worth of jewelry telling me that they have to quit, because they no longer can afford daycare.

Yes, I have a computer, actually I have more than one. I have internet access, know why? I work. So I can say what I want.

If you really wanted to be helpful, speak the truth, the hard truth. Now that to me would be a meaningful and positive concept.

I was wondering how long it would be before you pulled out the welfare moms got their bling bling line. That speaks volumes.

You can say what you want. It's just unfortunate that you're using it to perpetuate stereotypes and mischaracterize an entire social movement, rather than spreading a positive message. Use those computers to do a little research - you're completely misrepresenting a very important cause for many women who understand the people who perpetuate the "victim" and "poor me" attitudes are women like you.

You talk about facing "hard truth" and then you spout easy breezy platitudes and anecdotal experiences, instead of looking at the truth.

Listen to yourself - you're doing just as much whining as your so-called victims. You made the choice to work hard and be successful - good for you, good for everyone who has. That's life. And if you choose to allow anecdotal experiences to defend your perception of an entire class of people, that's bigotry.

Women's Equality Day honors the memory of women who for more than 100 years have fought for our rights - the right to vote, to own property, to be considered equal in the eyes of the law. Do you realize there are women alive today who couldn't vote when they turned 18? There are women who remember blatant discrimination, and refuse to sit back and just assume our place in this world is guaranteed. It's not.

You want to be complacent, fine. But again- why criticize those of us who aren't? Why kick dirt on people who are already down and need help?

First, I have no clue what "bling bling" is. If it's referring to someone that knows not how to spend money wisely? Then yes, I'm pulling that line.

I'm perpetuating the poor me? Excuse me, I'm for telling them to get off their butts and go to work, get an education. I'm making them a victim now to expect women or men to work for your food, clothing and shelter?

Yes, I'm very much a bigot against people that won't work. Remember you are the one that is saying there are an entire class of people that falls in this realm. I think each individual case needs to be looked at closely. If you are speaking about poor people, I know some very very hard working poor people. People that work two jobs, people who always sign up for the overtime. I have more admiration and respect for them that I can even put into words...sometimes their stories break my heart. So please do not class all poor people together.

My experiences are anecdotal and breezy platitudes? You are spouting facts? And please, I'm not whining, I'm flat out complaining. Why should I have to accept the large portion of Americans our tax dollars are supporting that are perfectly capable of holding down a job?

Yes I know how far women have come over the century and then some. But we have arrived, we are here...so can we get on with it? Few if any doors are closed to women today we need to educate women that the doors are open for basic education and higher learning. The doors will not come to them they have to seek them out. Each individual one.

I'm not kicking anybody when they are down, for there truly are those truly down. But as we all know there are some that are down of their own making..and fail to have the desire?, education? or motivation? to help themselves.

Now if your organization is about educating and motivating, I'm all for it. But you haven't left me with that impression. But to use your term, if it's about whining about what we don't have, what we should have, and pointing fingers at whoever because someone for instance can't afford childcare or whatever...it's an utter waste of time and how is it productive?